I have a series of photos where I'd like to cut the people out and put them on a different (similar) background. I'm looking for the best way to do this.
I know I can select with the Lasso tool. Which is best, Magnetic lasso or just Lasso? What should my settings be for Feather, Width, Edge Contrast and Frequency? Is it best to select the people and create a new Layer via Cut? And then drag that to my background? What else can I do to make it blend in with the background and look less like a cutout?
If there are other better ways, please let me know.
I've posted the background (a colorful yellow, red, and black blanket) as well as an example photo of people (with their faces obscured).
I know I can select with the Lasso tool. Which is best, Magnetic lasso or just Lasso? What should my settings be for Feather, Width, Edge Contrast and Frequency? Is it best to select the people and create a new Layer via Cut? And then drag that to my background? What else can I do to make it blend in with the background and look less like a cutout?
If there are other better ways, please let me know.
I've posted the background (a colorful yellow, red, and black blanket) as well as an example photo of people (with their faces obscured).
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 9:43 PMI prefer not to use lasso tools and such because you can end up overcutting and removing pieces of the person. The process I use is tedious but yields realistic results. I use a the eraser tool at a different sizes depending on the level of detail i'm working with and start at the edges and work my way in. As I get close to the border of the person, I use a rather small eraser with a slight softness on the brush. Also, you can adjust the lighting on the person to match the background. It takes a lot of practice to get a realistic look, but play with it, you'll see what works and what doesn't. I'd recommend copying your person to a new layer before you start any erasing or cutting so you don't lose the original.
Also, a trick for seeing areas that you may have missed when erasing. Temporarily add a stroke using the default color (red). Your missed spots will be glaringly apparent. Once they are cleaned up, remove the stroke effect. I'm going to upload two pix of my sister, one is the original photo and the other is her removed from the original scene and placed in a new background. You will see how lighting can really help to make a new scene believable. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 10:09 PMWhat causes "missed spots" when erasing? I notice sometimes that if I look really carefully, what looks erased actually shows a faint green, yellow, or pink tinge. This seems to indicate it was only partially erased and definitely has an impact for another layer showing through.
When you say you use a "slight softness", what % is about right?
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Mon, September 10, 2007 - 4:04 PMWow, great advice about using the eraser tool, Eibhlin! I'm going to use that more often. Just did this using that method..
gophotoshop.tribe.net/photos/...f0fb0800
Thanks!
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 9:51 PMJust saw your photos...are you putting other people's faces in there or are you just protecting their identities?
If this is a head's on body deal, then there are a lot of other things to consider as well. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 9:54 PMI'm just protecting their identities.
I did start with some erasing but it did seem tedious. But maybe I will try again. Yeah, the lasso often does grab (or not) things I don't intend. Would love to see your example. Am curious about the lighting you talked about. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 10:06 PMThe pix are in this tribe's photo album... -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 10:19 PMVery impressive! I'm wondering if you did a little smudge or something on the parts of her hair that weren't flat on her head and were originally letting through some of the white background. I seem to be struggling with the curly hair having too much edge because I'm afraid of erasing too much. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 10:27 PMPen tool is best, but takes some work to get used to it.
Once you create a path then make it a selection, then either Command J (Mac) or Control J (PC)
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 10:47 PMAndrew you completely lost me. Pen tool is best for what? I guess because I'm not so advanced; don't know much about paths. -
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 11:40 PMPen tool is Best Way to Cut People and Put on Background.
Once you have drawn what you want to cut out, you then make it a selection, then a layer,
Hard to describe.
Here are various ways to do what you want - check them out:
graphicssoft.about.com/od/pho...fly.htm
www.youtube.com/watch
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Mon, February 26, 2007 - 11:41 PMThe process of selection is the true power of Photoshop. And there are lots of ways to do it. The very best results I've seen have used channels, but I don't really understand the process.
All the selections tools have their ups and downs and their appropriate uses. A huge factor is the the distinction between the edge of what you're trying to select and the background.
The act of then pasting it onto another background just doubles that factor. I personally would tend to spend at least as much effort on matching things like color balancing, saturations, graniness, levels and shadows and lighting effects as I would on cutting out the picture.
Try using different tools for different parts of the selection. The shift and alt keys can be the most usefull tools of all though!
I really like the magnetic lasso if the edge contrast is right. It's all about tweaking the settings for your specific picture, as with all the selection tools. And if you're going the eraser route, the 'magic eraser can really speed things up...again if the edge contrast if high enough. [I wonder if you could use a dupicate layer, a 'find edges filter', a selection process and then delete the filter layer?]
After you get the selection, you can shrink it all by a pixel or three, or expand it and use a feathered cut...but only a few pixels at most I'd say, unless you're going for a bit of a dreamy or blurry look on your final product.
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Tue, March 13, 2007 - 2:27 PMI loooooove the extract tool, much faster. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it earlier. I was also annoyed that I found it after painstakingly working all the edges by hand w/the pen tool, you can even zoom in close and be more precise with it using a smaller felt tip pen in the extrater window. Will post my results in the album shortly, or you can just look in my album back towards the first entries. It's the ones of the dog.
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 12:49 AMOK. Don't shoot me because he's totally annoying but this video helps a ton with masking, etc.
Go here:
www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html
and keep scrolling down til you find "Advanced Masking" Really it does help... -
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 4:08 AMDon't dis Russell Brown! I've been watching him & Deke since the days of 'Digital Gurus'- that really shows my age.
Here's the link directly to the clip:
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 10:12 AMwow! That's awesome!
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 11:37 AMWow, really impressive. I won't have time to do this to all my images but great to know if I have a special one that I can take time with. Thanks for the great link!
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 8:27 PMwhoa "digital gurus" brings me back.
they taught me a lot of stuff in the olden days.
This tutorial had a ton of n00b info, but I certainly learned a bunch!!! Thx Bucktard. -
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 4:10 AM>Thx Bucktard<
No, thanks goes to Lynn- I just linked directly to what she referenced.
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 3:20 PMd'oh.... guess I was reading the thread upside-down again.
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 9:40 PMglad to help. And I think Russell rocks too, but he does get a little tiresome sometimes...:)
Here's another site that isn't directly related this topic but I just was introduced to it last night. Has tons of videos, I haven't even scratched the surface yet but the photorealism section is pretty good.
dohowto.com
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 2:37 AMpen tool - the zen of the pen , alternately a mask masks are a black and white layer you can paint in or out without destroying any data ! -
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Tue, February 27, 2007 - 8:29 PMPen tool indeed.
Tho- definately check out the tutorial BUCK-tard posted above, for what is surely the ultimate approach to the topic at hand. -
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 7:22 AMWould anyone be willing to post their pen tool or masking results? I've used these as well, but what I found was that I still required touchups with a finely tuned slightly feathered eraser tool. Please post pix :) Thanks! -
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 9:41 PMPart of what's in the Russell Brown video tells you to blur the mask. That helps with the edges. I have not mastered this technique. But there are people who are quite good at it and swear by that method. Would show you if I had anything to show...:) -
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Wed, February 28, 2007 - 10:58 PMmasking = the best control over "cutting" people (or any element, really) out
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Fri, March 2, 2007 - 10:33 PMI ended up using a Mask and "erasing" with a soft round brush. I used my original photo of the people as Background layer, made a duplicate layer and put a mask on that. Then I made a copy of the blanket to use as the 2nd layer. By erasing parts of the mask, I got the blanket/background to show through. And I found that the soft round brush worked well to blend around the edges. It wasn't perfect but I was happy enough with the results.
I've done a little work with masks before but didn't quite get them. But watching a video made it al clear!
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Wed, March 7, 2007 - 2:02 PMAnother is to use the plug "Fluid Mask" by Vertus. It is amazing and quick at isolating and removing people or whatever from backgrounds. There are a couple other programs like Fluid Mask, and I have found the Vertus to be easy to learn and very powerful in terms of options and control. And I have had some amazing results from cutting someone/something out and putting into another composition with a near seamless transfer. -
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Wed, March 7, 2007 - 2:10 PMFluid Mask is good. Extensis' Mask Pro is pretty good too.
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Mon, September 24, 2007 - 10:03 PMCheck out this link: www.graphic-design.com/Photos...ex.html